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Josh Mansfield's avatar

The fact that Ivereigh still touts the claim that TC was, "in response to a widespread call by bishops above all in the U.S. and France" is laughable. The majority of U.S. Bishops never got the request from the Vatican nor were truly notified of it to make commentary, as many bishops have stated. It came from a small number of prelates who already had an agenda.

In reality, Roche's interview was, above all, a careerist move in preparation for the next Conclave, which Roche clearly doesn't think the Francis loyalists stand a chance in & he's just trying to save his own skin under the next guy. Or he's trying to present himself now as a moderate acting under orders to try and make a run for the Chair of St. Peter himself.

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Devin Rice's avatar

I classify myself as Reform of the Reform light. There is nothing wrong with attending the older form, but I do think encouraging lay participation, greater use of the vernacular, some simplification in the rubrics/calendar and an expanded lectionary were all praiseworthy and should be the norm. I do wonder though if the reformers got a little carried away with cutting things out. And more emphasis should have been placed on returning to the patristic sources vs updating to fit the modern era. That said God allowed the reforms to happen.

And only God though can tell what will happen in the future. What He wills, will be.

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