Ep. 104: Watches, Pavone and papal banter

JD and Ed talk about the pope's latest interview and the surprising fallout after an update this week on Frank Pavone. - This episode of The Pillar Podcast is brought to you by The Saintmaker™, a one-of-a-kind personal journal and planner for Catholics. Visit thesaintmaker.com/pillar to learn more — and use promo code PILLAR at checkout for 10% off.