I know I may be jumping the gun here, but I have a thought:
5 of the last 6 popes have gone through process of canonization (with Benedict XVI likely to follow), with 3 of them are canonized saints. And they're canonized within lifetime of people who lived through their reign.
If there is a canonization process of Pope Francis, especially if it happens within the next half century, there will be significant portion of the faithfuls who remember being antagonized by him and will not accept him being declared a canonized Saint.
Saints are humans, and thus they do make mistakes. But the veneration that people give to saints are often borderline "they can do no wrong". Him being declared a Saint may be seen that he's justified in antagonizing them, and it will be hard to feel that "a Saint doesn't like me"
As for the last segment about the Holy Father remarks about the church in the US, I have a few comments, which may sound as a rant. Perhaps they are. The Pope is a sinner like me, a regular guy upon whom fell a lofty load. He can think whatever he wants and dislike whoever he dislikes, even if it is a vast number of people he doesn't know. But, no, he cannot share those things in front of a microphone and on record. He is the Vicar of Christ on earth, even though he feels that he is only the Bishop of Rome. It's out of place and he doesn't have the right to share those thoughts, much less brush them off with a simple, "just, move on." I love Pope Francis, pray for him and give him the reverence and obedience that I must. But, no he cannot say these things as a regular Catholic could.
Hmm, I don't particularly have affection for the Pope and, fortunately, that is not a requirement of my following Jesus. I get what y'all are saying--he's human, he has his biases (e.g., Argentinians showing bigotry toward Americans). I think the problem for me is the rather apparently purposeful hypocrisy between what this Pope says and what he does. That is, these interviews don't have to be published (as y'all pointed out) and yet they are approved for that purpose, which means that Papal persona of reaching out to those who are on the edges of the Church contradicts the Papal persona of that he does not reach out. Perhaps his anti-American bigotry (as y'all discussed) precludes him from seeing the TLM community as being on the "periphery"--who knows.
As long as it rhymes with proximity and sublimity, it'll be fine.
On another topic: Ed. mentioned the option for subscribers to step up to the new rate now if they should wish. Is that possible on the web site? (It doesn't seem so.)
Thank you for this week's podcast, especially the last segment, which contained many things which are necessary to say yet also difficult to say.
I know I may be jumping the gun here, but I have a thought:
5 of the last 6 popes have gone through process of canonization (with Benedict XVI likely to follow), with 3 of them are canonized saints. And they're canonized within lifetime of people who lived through their reign.
If there is a canonization process of Pope Francis, especially if it happens within the next half century, there will be significant portion of the faithfuls who remember being antagonized by him and will not accept him being declared a canonized Saint.
Saints are humans, and thus they do make mistakes. But the veneration that people give to saints are often borderline "they can do no wrong". Him being declared a Saint may be seen that he's justified in antagonizing them, and it will be hard to feel that "a Saint doesn't like me"
Are there transcripts of these anywhere?
"Magna Manatee" took me a minute. Anyone else?
As for the last segment about the Holy Father remarks about the church in the US, I have a few comments, which may sound as a rant. Perhaps they are. The Pope is a sinner like me, a regular guy upon whom fell a lofty load. He can think whatever he wants and dislike whoever he dislikes, even if it is a vast number of people he doesn't know. But, no, he cannot share those things in front of a microphone and on record. He is the Vicar of Christ on earth, even though he feels that he is only the Bishop of Rome. It's out of place and he doesn't have the right to share those thoughts, much less brush them off with a simple, "just, move on." I love Pope Francis, pray for him and give him the reverence and obedience that I must. But, no he cannot say these things as a regular Catholic could.
Hmm, I don't particularly have affection for the Pope and, fortunately, that is not a requirement of my following Jesus. I get what y'all are saying--he's human, he has his biases (e.g., Argentinians showing bigotry toward Americans). I think the problem for me is the rather apparently purposeful hypocrisy between what this Pope says and what he does. That is, these interviews don't have to be published (as y'all pointed out) and yet they are approved for that purpose, which means that Papal persona of reaching out to those who are on the edges of the Church contradicts the Papal persona of that he does not reach out. Perhaps his anti-American bigotry (as y'all discussed) precludes him from seeing the TLM community as being on the "periphery"--who knows.
Is there a nice way to coach JD about how the word "magnanimity" is pronounced? All the best.
I thought my stumbling over it was endearing.
As long as it rhymes with proximity and sublimity, it'll be fine.
On another topic: Ed. mentioned the option for subscribers to step up to the new rate now if they should wish. Is that possible on the web site? (It doesn't seem so.)