1. Have you guys ever read any of the work by Fr. Paul Tuner of Diocese of Kansas City-St Joseph? https://paulturner.org/ Fr. Turner has works closely with ICEL and has written MANY books on liturgy. You guys talk about how Bishop Martin as uninformed, but I would say he is very informed in the processive school of Liturgy. Reading Fr. Turner blog, you get a sense one of keys to this school of liturgy is unity.
2. You guys should consider a reporting trip to the 56 National meeting of diocesan liturgical commissions in Baltimore 9/30-10/2 of this year. Cardinal Roche will be speaking, and the major topic will be new liturgy of the hours. I bet good money everything going on this week will come up at some point during this event. Also access a wide group or directors of liturgy from across the US who likely have their own thoughts on Bishop Martin's reforms. We all know JD loves to work a crowd =) https://fdlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/2025_Registration_Brochure_Rev.pdf
I feel like the situation in Charlotte is pretty sobering, living as I do in a diocese of about the same size with an overall orthodox presbyterate, thriving ministries, good number of vocations, etc. Our bishop turns 75 later this year and it is pretty scary to think we could end up with another Martin.
I think wearing a jersey is like anyone wearing the jersey of the player they most admire. Wearing 42 shows honor and respect to Jackie Robinson, who greatly deserves it.
This idea that liturgical law and praxis occupies it's own space needs to be further developed. Far too often liturgical practice gets reduced to the dictates of positive law, which is a huge mistake. It treats liturgy as a machine that is top down imposed rather than what it is - a body of tradition reflective of the faith of the people passed down from age to age with the authority in the Church tending it as a steward as opposed to its master.
I am a deacon who is fine with anything in allowed in the GIRM or the Missal. I tend toward a more traditional ars celebrandi, enjoy occasionally chanting parts of the Ordinary in Latin (and like to remind people that SC specifically called for this) and am fine having folks kneel or stand for communion on the hand or tongue. But I draw the line at the Prayer to St. Michael. It’s an innovation introduced by Leo XIII so it cannot be said that it has the weight of centuries of tradition behind it and in my experience it is much more likely to be introduced by newly arrived pastors than demanded by large numbers of the faithful in any kind of organic way. Imposing one’s idiosyncratic liturgical preferences on the faithful is not only a sin committed by bishops.
Best game ever
That was a quite a game
Large extremely Caucasian men wearing 42 is what the Civil Rights movement was about
At least definitely regarding gingers
I have fond memories of playing in that K of C softball league 20+ years ago. I'm glad it's still going strong!
Thanks as always for the podcast.
1. Have you guys ever read any of the work by Fr. Paul Tuner of Diocese of Kansas City-St Joseph? https://paulturner.org/ Fr. Turner has works closely with ICEL and has written MANY books on liturgy. You guys talk about how Bishop Martin as uninformed, but I would say he is very informed in the processive school of Liturgy. Reading Fr. Turner blog, you get a sense one of keys to this school of liturgy is unity.
2. You guys should consider a reporting trip to the 56 National meeting of diocesan liturgical commissions in Baltimore 9/30-10/2 of this year. Cardinal Roche will be speaking, and the major topic will be new liturgy of the hours. I bet good money everything going on this week will come up at some point during this event. Also access a wide group or directors of liturgy from across the US who likely have their own thoughts on Bishop Martin's reforms. We all know JD loves to work a crowd =) https://fdlc.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/2025_Registration_Brochure_Rev.pdf
Keep up the good work.
Edit cleaned up a few sentence that were unclear.
Drag. Him. Harder. lol
I feel like the situation in Charlotte is pretty sobering, living as I do in a diocese of about the same size with an overall orthodox presbyterate, thriving ministries, good number of vocations, etc. Our bishop turns 75 later this year and it is pretty scary to think we could end up with another Martin.
I think wearing a jersey is like anyone wearing the jersey of the player they most admire. Wearing 42 shows honor and respect to Jackie Robinson, who greatly deserves it.
Come for the podcast. Stay for THE BEST GAME EVER.
The game was masterful....thanks for the laughs!
This idea that liturgical law and praxis occupies it's own space needs to be further developed. Far too often liturgical practice gets reduced to the dictates of positive law, which is a huge mistake. It treats liturgy as a machine that is top down imposed rather than what it is - a body of tradition reflective of the faith of the people passed down from age to age with the authority in the Church tending it as a steward as opposed to its master.
I’m impressed that your KoC council has a sufficient number of guys in adequate physical condition to field a softball team…:-)
I am a deacon who is fine with anything in allowed in the GIRM or the Missal. I tend toward a more traditional ars celebrandi, enjoy occasionally chanting parts of the Ordinary in Latin (and like to remind people that SC specifically called for this) and am fine having folks kneel or stand for communion on the hand or tongue. But I draw the line at the Prayer to St. Michael. It’s an innovation introduced by Leo XIII so it cannot be said that it has the weight of centuries of tradition behind it and in my experience it is much more likely to be introduced by newly arrived pastors than demanded by large numbers of the faithful in any kind of organic way. Imposing one’s idiosyncratic liturgical preferences on the faithful is not only a sin committed by bishops.