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In this episode The Pillar Podcast, Ed and JD discuss the strangeness of time during the Sacred Triduum, JD’s trip to New York, Josh Groban and Cyndi Lauper, Cardinal Angelo Becciu, and the Vatican finance trial. And JD endeavors not to speak over Ed. — This episode of The Pillar Podcast was sponsored by the Petrus Development Conference 2022, June 13-15 in Naples, Florida. To register, use coupon code PILLAR at