'A second official close to the congregation put it more bluntly: “It’s a very sensitive case and getting it resolved in a way that respects the local [arch]bishop and doesn’t provoke a whole Jesuit province matters.” '
Why is this a sensitive case? It seems very clear-cut to me.
Well, that is the question. I’m guessing no because he has an employment law claim not a constitutional right to a job. Even if he could try to argue that the Church discriminates against homosexuals (which he can’t because the Church hires homosexuals-just not married ones-the Church is allowed to discriminate
Abortion is probably the most important of their anti-sacraments, but LGBTQ+ runs it closely. A happy decision, but I suspect it will displease some Churchmen who should be pleased.
Possibly more interesting to me is the Vatican process, since it involves a question of the archbishop's authority over the local activities of a religious order. I've been expecting for a while that the Jesuits will simply have their independence affirmed, and that the press will largely report that Rome is backing the rights of LGBTetc, and so all bishops should of course fall in line. It would be refreshing to see Tobin negotiate some reasonable middle ground short of getting the Jesuits expelled from Indianapolis altogether. (Actually, can the Archbishop do that?)
Yes, appointing the Cardinal for this is like appointing a referee in a sporting event that involves his close family members. We all know what this Cardinal favors.
You can count on Rome to complicate things and muddy the waters and many Jesuits to do the opposite of what the Church does. Their suppression was not only for political reasons. Thankfully we have none in my diocese.
When the law of the land says one thing and the Lord of the universe says another you can bet there will be major problems. The LGBT+ Community wants respect but doesn’t want to give it religious communities.
'A second official close to the congregation put it more bluntly: “It’s a very sensitive case and getting it resolved in a way that respects the local [arch]bishop and doesn’t provoke a whole Jesuit province matters.” '
Why is this a sensitive case? It seems very clear-cut to me.
Dear me, mustn’t provoke the Jesuits.
Will the court decision be appealed? This is an LGBTQ+ issue, which is a sacrament to our progressive culture.
The state Supreme Court has the final say in the Indiana courts.
But can he make a claim his federal constitutional rights were violated
To the same Supreme Court that just struck down Roe v. Wade and sided with the coach who was praying publicly on the sidelines?
Never said he would prevail, asking if he can pursue such a claim
Well, that is the question. I’m guessing no because he has an employment law claim not a constitutional right to a job. Even if he could try to argue that the Church discriminates against homosexuals (which he can’t because the Church hires homosexuals-just not married ones-the Church is allowed to discriminate
Thank you. I was concerned if it would go to the federal courts.
Abortion is probably the most important of their anti-sacraments, but LGBTQ+ runs it closely. A happy decision, but I suspect it will displease some Churchmen who should be pleased.
This is such a victory for the Church and the First Amendment!! Praise be God.
Good.
Possibly more interesting to me is the Vatican process, since it involves a question of the archbishop's authority over the local activities of a religious order. I've been expecting for a while that the Jesuits will simply have their independence affirmed, and that the press will largely report that Rome is backing the rights of LGBTetc, and so all bishops should of course fall in line. It would be refreshing to see Tobin negotiate some reasonable middle ground short of getting the Jesuits expelled from Indianapolis altogether. (Actually, can the Archbishop do that?)
The fact that Cardinal Nighty-Night is in charge of mediating this dispute does not fill me with confidence.
Yes, appointing the Cardinal for this is like appointing a referee in a sporting event that involves his close family members. We all know what this Cardinal favors.
You can count on Rome to complicate things and muddy the waters and many Jesuits to do the opposite of what the Church does. Their suppression was not only for political reasons. Thankfully we have none in my diocese.
Open and shut case. It will be interesting to read statements from the Jesuits and their attorney.
What would Saint Ignatius say?
When the law of the land says one thing and the Lord of the universe says another you can bet there will be major problems. The LGBT+ Community wants respect but doesn’t want to give it religious communities.