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Matthew K Michels, OblSB's avatar

From my Spanish contacts, it appears that the level of controversy of the place is more or less, "It'd be gauche to ask a stranger's opinions on the matter while sharing dinner, but otherwise it's sort of 'it's a thing that exists.'" The question of Confederate Monuments in the US seems to arouse far more emotions and create far more entrenched opinions from a far greater percentage of the national populace.

It would appear that the complex's genesis truly was a genuine altruistic conciliatory measure on Franco's part. With time having elapsed since La Guerra Civil and Franco's death, he's now getting his day in the court of public hindsight, which has been leaning more generally favorable to him in the end.

The "divisive controversy" of the Valle is perpetuated almost entirely from the marxists and leftist activists, because they simply cannot move on. And much like the leftists and marxists in the US re: Confederate monuments, these individuals cannot accept even a minor conciliation with any of their vast array of sworn enemies, nor do they possess the good sense to see any value that a monument (even a questionable one) can have in maintaining the public order, peace, and conciliation amongst a people once rendered-asunder. These marxists and leftists are still fighting this war almost 100 years on. They refuse to let go and move on and let the past be the past. In a sense, they actually want the conflict to continue.

Oh well; I'm just glad the monks still get to have their monastery.

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Sam Troy's avatar

It's a great article; I'm worried about the comments section!

The Republicans killed almost 7,000 Catholic clergy in the civil war. That was terrible.

However, Francoist Spain was totalitarian, at least to begin with, and swastikas were prominently displayed during the Second World War. Franco deposed a democratically elected government using weapons supplied by the Nazis. His use of concentration camps, forced labour and executions led to between 30,000 and 50,000 deaths. During the civil war, it seems that there were about 100,000 executions of suspected Socialists (this is behind lines; not battle casualties).

Surely we have some space for nuance?

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