Brendan: Terrific piece of numerical journalism. You once again prove the importance of arithmetic, a much ignored science.
However, I think your βnet changeβ statistic is not intuitive β when I first looked at the US chart, I thought, βOh, itβs pretty much stableβ β which is the wrong conclusion. It is as if the airplane is slowly easing down into the mountainside, instead of suddenly nosediving into the ground. Eventually plane and surface will meet.
Itβs always fun to come up with statistics for other people to calculate. Iβd like to see a graph of this simple ratio: Number of Catholics in a country divided by number of active priests in that country in the same year. My hunch is that would be a graph that would show us how fast we are approaching the crash.
Thanks for doing this research! Just for clarification, this is only taking into account ordinations of diocesan priests and not priests that are ordained for particular religious orders, correct? If that's the case, I'm curious if there are any countries or areas that have strong vocations for particular religious orders that aren't showing up in this data because its limited to diocesan ordinations.
Also, I'd love to see this same sort of analysis done but on a US diocese-by-diocese basis. I'm sure you have a enough on your plate, though, so just a suggestion. Thanks again!
I too would be interested to see this further broken down in the United States! Growing up in the Lincoln Diocese, I was often told that they had a very high amount of seminarians compared to more populated dioceses. I wonder if there is a difference in rural vs urban diocese or states. I would suspect that there is a sharper net loss of priests in more urban or coastal areas.
Is there a global vocations crisis? A look at the numbers
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Brendan: Terrific piece of numerical journalism. You once again prove the importance of arithmetic, a much ignored science.
However, I think your βnet changeβ statistic is not intuitive β when I first looked at the US chart, I thought, βOh, itβs pretty much stableβ β which is the wrong conclusion. It is as if the airplane is slowly easing down into the mountainside, instead of suddenly nosediving into the ground. Eventually plane and surface will meet.
Itβs always fun to come up with statistics for other people to calculate. Iβd like to see a graph of this simple ratio: Number of Catholics in a country divided by number of active priests in that country in the same year. My hunch is that would be a graph that would show us how fast we are approaching the crash.
Thanks again for your excellent work.
Chris Carstens
Brendan,
Thanks for doing this research! Just for clarification, this is only taking into account ordinations of diocesan priests and not priests that are ordained for particular religious orders, correct? If that's the case, I'm curious if there are any countries or areas that have strong vocations for particular religious orders that aren't showing up in this data because its limited to diocesan ordinations.
Also, I'd love to see this same sort of analysis done but on a US diocese-by-diocese basis. I'm sure you have a enough on your plate, though, so just a suggestion. Thanks again!
Thank you for this Brendan! Easy to read, easy to understand and very helpful/important
I too would be interested to see this further broken down in the United States! Growing up in the Lincoln Diocese, I was often told that they had a very high amount of seminarians compared to more populated dioceses. I wonder if there is a difference in rural vs urban diocese or states. I would suspect that there is a sharper net loss of priests in more urban or coastal areas.