Ed, thank you for rightly calling out that one can engage in a serious of stretches without subscribing to the “spiritual” element of Yoga. Not that *I* would ever be caught doing it (until I am a few years older). 😂
I’m listening to the bonus episode and am quite disturbed that Ed has fallen into the clutches of yoga. Ed, save your soul and try https://www.pietrafitness.com/ instead.
Na, your comment came across in that perfect, “this is either funny or a terrible take” that the internet is famous for. I went with terrible take and was proven wrong lol.
Wow - think you shouldn’t have to be that defensive about what amounts to physical therapy (which I highly recommend). I also see nothing wrong with mindfulness as long as it’s shorn of its New Age baggage. There is certainly a form of mindfulness in many of the spiritual practices of monastic orders .
Thank you for saying that. I came here just to plug mindfulness, on the heels of Mr. Condon's comments about Yoga. After you listen to "The Pillar Podcast" each week, check out "The Golden Hour" podcast for an excellent (Christian, traditional) approach to mindfulness.
Ed said : “ I am, as JD would tell you if he was being honest, a difficult guy to get along with on a day-to-day basis. I can be, I know, a little spiky, and I have a rather inflated sense of self and purpose which can make me a bit awkward to work with. And I’m worse around the house, I can assure you.
We should all follow Ed’s lead and be so candid. Assessing our faults humbly allows us to identify areas for growth, leading to personal development, better relationships, and increased self-awareness. It fosters personal accountability and the opportunity for positive change.
Yep, must be DDP. He has helped a lot of people out of dire situations, especially in the wrestling business where many had drug/alcohol problems over their careers.
I’m guessing DDP Yoga from Diamond Dallas Page judging by the description? I’ve heard that a lot of pro wrestlers have done it and extended their careers and resolved lingering injuries and pain from taking all those bumps as a result. You’ll be ready to put someone through a table in no time!
I would venture to guess that the aim of your stretching program is in fact pain-free mobility and not moksha or total separation from God’s created order.
I would encourage you to check out essentrics or classical stretch - lots of great stretching and movement without the associated yoga "claptrap". Movement is key to maintaining health and balance so keep up whatever you choose to do.
Most of what we think of as yoga is only about 100 years old, & a lot of it comes from California. Some of it is Indian carnival stunts & even British army calisthenics. Whatever you think of Bikram, he had a point in trying to copywrite postures.
Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice by Singleton
The Goddess Pose by Goldberg.
The latter is interesting as it recounts the life of a Latvian woman called Yevgenia Petersen who traveled to India & then Hollywood, rebranded herself as "Indra Devi", started teaching her brand of "yoga" to show-biz types, from whence it spreads across the fruited plain...
And thank you for another listen to the Fifth Dimension "Age of Aquarius". I loved it as a child of th 60s and still had to sing and dance right along. Made my morning!
I have been Catholic all my life and have never done yoga. But it is always funny to me that people who do, without lunging into the cultural aspects you describe, need to make an apologia sua yoga, for doing it!
The belief that any yoga under any circumstances is evil strikes me as superstitious. It’s stretching. As long as you don’t intend to worship an idol or empty yourself so you can connect with the universe (or whatever), or surround yourself with people who are doing either of those things, I really don’t see a problem. And good for you for trying to take care of yourself. I’ve been trying to convince my husband to do something similar for months now.
When I discovered “Yoga for Regular Guys” by Diamond Dallas Page I had low expectations and I’ve never paid for the videos. But I had the book until it fell to pieces and it was very good stuff. Even though DDP was a heel that I never liked, he seems a nice enough guy in real life and his instruction in stretching was helpful.
I’d like to see the Catholic alternatives to Yoga get more traction. I think that will take free videos/apps. I’d love to see Pietra on Formed or something like that. I’m not holding my breath for it, though.
I'd like to see Pietra be more affordable too. Someone/ some organization would have to subsidize it. There's a cost to produce and host the content online.
Ed, thank you for rightly calling out that one can engage in a serious of stretches without subscribing to the “spiritual” element of Yoga. Not that *I* would ever be caught doing it (until I am a few years older). 😂
I hear you, Stephen and Ed, and agree 100% with you both... and no, I wouldn't be found ever doing it either (also being a few years older too). :D
Ed, I find myself conflicted.
As a man north of 60 I find myself agreeing with everything you have said. Does that make you my spirit animal?
Depends. What sort of animal am I in this scenario?
An ibex? They like to butt heads…
I kind of like that.
An ibex is a good answer. Very graceful (grace filled). My automatic response was a rhino. Sorry.
Curmudgeonly Ed is best Ed. Prove me wrong.
Is there any other Ed?
I confess righteously caustic Ed is my favorite.
I’m listening to the bonus episode and am quite disturbed that Ed has fallen into the clutches of yoga. Ed, save your soul and try https://www.pietrafitness.com/ instead.
Did. Did you not read the Pillar Post you are responding to?
I was kidding. Clearly that didn’t come across in the printed word. Next time I’ll try a smiley face or something to make it clear.
Na, your comment came across in that perfect, “this is either funny or a terrible take” that the internet is famous for. I went with terrible take and was proven wrong lol.
That's exactly what I was thinking as well. I decided to respond as if it was a serious take because my reply to that version was more fun.
😂😂😂
😂😂😂
Wow - think you shouldn’t have to be that defensive about what amounts to physical therapy (which I highly recommend). I also see nothing wrong with mindfulness as long as it’s shorn of its New Age baggage. There is certainly a form of mindfulness in many of the spiritual practices of monastic orders .
Thank you for saying that. I came here just to plug mindfulness, on the heels of Mr. Condon's comments about Yoga. After you listen to "The Pillar Podcast" each week, check out "The Golden Hour" podcast for an excellent (Christian, traditional) approach to mindfulness.
Dr Greg Bottaro has an excellent Catholic approach to the western tradition of mental prayer which begins with… mindfulness.
Ed said : “ I am, as JD would tell you if he was being honest, a difficult guy to get along with on a day-to-day basis. I can be, I know, a little spiky, and I have a rather inflated sense of self and purpose which can make me a bit awkward to work with. And I’m worse around the house, I can assure you.
We should all follow Ed’s lead and be so candid. Assessing our faults humbly allows us to identify areas for growth, leading to personal development, better relationships, and increased self-awareness. It fosters personal accountability and the opportunity for positive change.
DDP?
Yep, must be DDP. He has helped a lot of people out of dire situations, especially in the wrestling business where many had drug/alcohol problems over their careers.
I’m guessing DDP Yoga from Diamond Dallas Page judging by the description? I’ve heard that a lot of pro wrestlers have done it and extended their careers and resolved lingering injuries and pain from taking all those bumps as a result. You’ll be ready to put someone through a table in no time!
Same thought I had, once my brain "stretched" enough to realize I was reading about Gwyneth Paltrow... and Diamond Dallas Page... in The Pillar!
Somehow Taylor Swift didn’t come up this time.
That's because she is in Australia.
I would venture to guess that the aim of your stretching program is in fact pain-free mobility and not moksha or total separation from God’s created order.
I would encourage you to check out essentrics or classical stretch - lots of great stretching and movement without the associated yoga "claptrap". Movement is key to maintaining health and balance so keep up whatever you choose to do.
Most of what we think of as yoga is only about 100 years old, & a lot of it comes from California. Some of it is Indian carnival stunts & even British army calisthenics. Whatever you think of Bikram, he had a point in trying to copywrite postures.
Yoga Body: The Origins of Modern Posture Practice by Singleton
The Goddess Pose by Goldberg.
The latter is interesting as it recounts the life of a Latvian woman called Yevgenia Petersen who traveled to India & then Hollywood, rebranded herself as "Indra Devi", started teaching her brand of "yoga" to show-biz types, from whence it spreads across the fruited plain...
And thank you for another listen to the Fifth Dimension "Age of Aquarius". I loved it as a child of th 60s and still had to sing and dance right along. Made my morning!
Thank you! I've always loved this song too 😄
Ed, methinks thou dost protest too much about yoga. :)
I have been Catholic all my life and have never done yoga. But it is always funny to me that people who do, without lunging into the cultural aspects you describe, need to make an apologia sua yoga, for doing it!
The belief that any yoga under any circumstances is evil strikes me as superstitious. It’s stretching. As long as you don’t intend to worship an idol or empty yourself so you can connect with the universe (or whatever), or surround yourself with people who are doing either of those things, I really don’t see a problem. And good for you for trying to take care of yourself. I’ve been trying to convince my husband to do something similar for months now.
When I discovered “Yoga for Regular Guys” by Diamond Dallas Page I had low expectations and I’ve never paid for the videos. But I had the book until it fell to pieces and it was very good stuff. Even though DDP was a heel that I never liked, he seems a nice enough guy in real life and his instruction in stretching was helpful.
I’d like to see the Catholic alternatives to Yoga get more traction. I think that will take free videos/apps. I’d love to see Pietra on Formed or something like that. I’m not holding my breath for it, though.
I'd like to see Pietra be more affordable too. Someone/ some organization would have to subsidize it. There's a cost to produce and host the content online.