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Father Edward Horkan's avatar

What exactly would be the point of having "non-sacramental deaconesses?" Women can already take on the full range of lay apostolates in the Church. Women can already lead all sorts of schools, groups and other Catholic organizations. Women can already be consecrated, whether in religious institutes, lay institutes, societies of apostolic life, or in consecrated single life. Women already can have the exalted titles of mother and wife, the first teachers of children, the model of Holy Mother Church for the family and an image of the Church for the world. What would be added by throwing in the title "deaconess" to some sub-group of women? What would distinguish deaconesses from other women in the Church? What could these "non-sacramental deaconesses" do that faithful Catholic women cannot do now? It seems to me that the only effect would be to cause confusion as many, perhaps most, people would take it that "non sacramental deaconesses" would be a precursor to ordained deaconesses and then to ordained priestesses.

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I think the reason there has been little or no discussion regarding other models of deaconess beyond that of sacramental is because it already exists from a practical standpoint. Women, at least in the West, hold very high positions in the Church including positions such as diocesan chancellor. Positions not open to women are not open to non-ordained men either. One could argue that there should be a defined ministry regarding women in the Church, but again there is no need. The defined ministries are not distinguished with regard to men and women, but cleric or lay. The formal ministries open to men such as catechist are open to women. Just as non-ordained men in these roles are not called deacons, women would not be deaconesses. If the term deaconess were to be used it would only cause confusion as it would indicate through its language ordained ministry. The discussion regarding deaconesses is not one of the role of women in the Church, the positions they may hold and work they may do; it is fundamentally a discussion concerning the sacrament of Holy Orders - hence, why the debate has focused there.

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