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I wish the Holy See had consulted better before they signed that deal with small-medium nation states who deal directly with China and the CCP.

They probably would have got the same advice: don’t expect your ‘partner’ in this agreement to hold to it. The CCP in their mind, condescended to an agreement and now they have a piece of paper that makes all their power plays appear ‘legitimate’.

It’s easy for us here comfortable in liberal democracies to say “you can’t appease tyrants”. Chinese Catholics don’t have that luxury.

I see two chief problems here: one is the lack of intelligence on the ground. The Holy See’s secretariat clearly has very few contacts in Chinese Catholic communities and what is there is not filtering back up. You can’t run a Church if you can’t figure out who the heck is where doing what.

Two is a major lack of leverage. All they’ve got left is the actual document (assuming there is one) and leak it strategically. If it can demonstrate how much of an ass the CCP has been, that may give a little bit more leeway to renegotiate. It will not be taken well, but the CCP will probably not nix the deal, will delay the resigning but be a little bit more circumspect about what promises it’s willing to make and keep or not.

If the Holy See is going to take seriously China, it needs to KNOW China. I would be getting every single bishop (officially recognised or not) to Rome on ad limina visits ASAP. Get a World Youth Day to the Asian mainland as a priority too, and quietly fund every Chinese youth willing to go.

You have to lead with Jesus. He’s bigger (and badder) than Xi.

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Matthew K Michels, OblSB's avatar

In the pontificate of Saint John Paul II, there were a number of Blesseds whose canonizations were blocked by the CCP because of their martyrdom at the hands of the Chinese, either directly at the hands of the CCP and its Party Vanguard, or during the Boxer Rebellion.

Even now, this continues: the cause for Father Emil Kapaun is definitely in limbo due to pressure by the chicoms, since Fr. Kapaun was martyred by PLA forces in a Chinese POW camp north of the Yalu... and China can't have that pesky man elevated and canonized!

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