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Mr. Karamazov's avatar

Not a good article. It seems to be mainly focused on the "thoughts" of the amorphous Internet integralist - whatever that is. Of course there are loud people on the Internet who adopt all sorts of views (including of integralism) with varying level of sophistication. But why take this approach at all?

One of the first quotes is "The major figures seem to be primarily online." Then after setting up what I consider to be a few strawmen, Patrick Deneen, Sohrab Ahmari, Adrian Vermuile and Gladden Pappin are brought up. These are not no name Internet figures - they're real thinkers. Why not take the opposite approach and start with them so you avoid failing into the strawman trap? That way you're not picking and choosing the arguments you want to dispute from the unlimited menu of internet integralist.

Better yet do the initial interview with one of those guys. Let them summarize their position and then ask Mr. Capizzi his thoughts on it. That would lead to a much more enlightening conversation.

One thing of note. We do not have to believe everything that comes out of the mouth or the pen of a pope. That includes their social teaching. Saying this isn't a simple "I make my own rules" thing. It's the teaching of the Church. While we should listen with deference, we don't have to agree.

For the record - I don't have a dog in the integralist fight. I don't really know what exactly I think about it other than that it's interesting. I just think we should have more enlightened discussion of it.

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Father Adam McMillan's avatar

Our whole society revolves around precisely nothing because we have for generations had useless heros. We are made to imitate greatness, so we imitate sports players and actors, because nothing is more important than sports or entertainment. Liberal society does not know what greatness is. We need Saints to show the world how to live.

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