To add to my previous comment, I do like the weekly readings pod format, but the lengthy discourse on Genesis in this episode made me really miss the original deep-dive format. Maybe once we've gone through all three lectionary years we can do some deep dives? I would love one on Genesis 1-11, and one on Job, and a couple on the deuterocanonicals like Tobit and Judith :)
I'm curious about the mention of the translation of "peirazō" as "tempted" vs "testing", is that the same word that is used in the "Our Father"? I know someone who struggles with "lead us not into temptation" because they don't believe God will tempt us into something evil, but maybe the translation of "test" instead of "tempt" might help them with that. I kind of like the idea of "lead us not to be tested against our truths" instead of "temptation". Am I on to something here, or is that a stretch?
In both Matthew and Luke Lord's Prayer, the word is peirasmon. I've seen this translated as "trial" as in "save us from the time of trial" and that's my interpretation of these words in the gospels, for what it's worth. I see this as the prayer the saints pray under duress and persecution.
I recently came across a small explanation of what the forbidden fruit was in the New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism, No. 2. (looks like 2011 edition). In it's Lesson 5 on "The Creation and the Fall of Man" under the Fall Section (B.), Question #54's answer says: God gave Adam and Eve the commandment not to eat of the fruit of a certain tree that grew in the Garden of Paradise." Very interestingly after that it includes a little extra explanation saying "It was not a real fruit, but a symbol of some pleasure God forbade them, to test their love for Him."
Given that they were in Eden and wanted for little, I also wondered if the sin had something to do with the biblical meaning of "knowing" someone as y'all discussed.
On a different topic, I think it's justifiable to say that crocodiles (appear to) walk on their bellies too. So I think there is a strong argument that Nachash should not have been translated as serpent.
I hear what you're saying about children's Bibles, but on the other hand, have you considered the Slappy Squirrel cartoon where she beats up the serpent? https://youtu.be/qzqTbpqVQ_Q?si=szLMYSEVUpmn74cO
I'm going to start using "sevening" as a verb now because of Dr Powell.
This was such a great episode!!
To add to my previous comment, I do like the weekly readings pod format, but the lengthy discourse on Genesis in this episode made me really miss the original deep-dive format. Maybe once we've gone through all three lectionary years we can do some deep dives? I would love one on Genesis 1-11, and one on Job, and a couple on the deuterocanonicals like Tobit and Judith :)
I sincerely wish we had time each week to make both.
I'm curious about the mention of the translation of "peirazō" as "tempted" vs "testing", is that the same word that is used in the "Our Father"? I know someone who struggles with "lead us not into temptation" because they don't believe God will tempt us into something evil, but maybe the translation of "test" instead of "tempt" might help them with that. I kind of like the idea of "lead us not to be tested against our truths" instead of "temptation". Am I on to something here, or is that a stretch?
In both Matthew and Luke Lord's Prayer, the word is peirasmon. I've seen this translated as "trial" as in "save us from the time of trial" and that's my interpretation of these words in the gospels, for what it's worth. I see this as the prayer the saints pray under duress and persecution.
Btw. Same word in Matt 26.41 and Matt 6.13. Take a look at the NRSV translation.
Hey Dr. Powell/JD:
I recently came across a small explanation of what the forbidden fruit was in the New Saint Joseph Baltimore Catechism, No. 2. (looks like 2011 edition). In it's Lesson 5 on "The Creation and the Fall of Man" under the Fall Section (B.), Question #54's answer says: God gave Adam and Eve the commandment not to eat of the fruit of a certain tree that grew in the Garden of Paradise." Very interestingly after that it includes a little extra explanation saying "It was not a real fruit, but a symbol of some pleasure God forbade them, to test their love for Him."
Given that they were in Eden and wanted for little, I also wondered if the sin had something to do with the biblical meaning of "knowing" someone as y'all discussed.
On a different topic, I think it's justifiable to say that crocodiles (appear to) walk on their bellies too. So I think there is a strong argument that Nachash should not have been translated as serpent.
I hear what you're saying about children's Bibles, but on the other hand, have you considered the Slappy Squirrel cartoon where she beats up the serpent? https://youtu.be/qzqTbpqVQ_Q?si=szLMYSEVUpmn74cO
Such a great episode! But on Sunday during the readings I could only think of ganache 😅