The g isn’t silent as much as it is kind of “swallowed”. I’m sure this isn’t super helpful as an American, but it’s called a palatized l and you do it by placing the tongue at the roof of the mouth before saying the l. It makes a sound like “yl” instead of a simple “l”.
When Edgar and Ed discussed the idea of sponsoring various Vatican offices, all I could think of was “The Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith presented by Pepsi Max”
Great to hear Edgar's insights on Rome and Latin America on the podcast. I also agree with his take that we're still in the honeymoon phase of this papacy. Which isn't a bad thing but it's also early still to claim too much with certainty about Pope Leo XIV yet.
One of the best things about the recent conclave coverage has been getting to meet and "know" Edgar and the other Pillar staff. This was a very interesting episode. I'd love to have a spinoff podcast series with Edgar and Luke talking about international church matters.
Although I think I understand from the context, could you explain exactly what is meant when you say “ say the red and do the black”. Also the derivation of the phrase. Thanks!
I meant it backwards (say the black and do the red). It comes from the missal. The things in black is what the priest is supposed to say, the things in red are the ones the priest is supposed to do. So "say the black and do the red" conveys a specific attitude towards liturgy, meaning that the priest should not do or say more or less than what's prescribed.
Thank you Edgar, for your almost instant reply! I wondered if it might be tied to the missal but had never heard it before. Very evocative for those of us who remember those missals.
In Italian, usually in "gli" the "g" is mute, so you don't say Paglia, Bergoglio, Figlio, aglio, instead you say Palia, Bergolio, Filio, alio.
The g isn’t silent as much as it is kind of “swallowed”. I’m sure this isn’t super helpful as an American, but it’s called a palatized l and you do it by placing the tongue at the roof of the mouth before saying the l. It makes a sound like “yl” instead of a simple “l”.
LOL! I’m a musician so I’m good at hearing & imitating accents but I don’t really know Italian grammar/verb conjugation.
You're right! I guess my Italian professor back then didn't want to over-complicate my life, haha.
Awww yiss, Edgar's back on the podcast
Yes. The two Eds. Awesome combination.
Did that ad-read include a Spider-Man quote???
“Ohhh, these Venezuelans, man” was good for a laugh — happy to have Edgar back on the podcast!
Leo may not impose…except when “sibi nomen imposuit Leonem Decimum Quartum.”
When Edgar and Ed discussed the idea of sponsoring various Vatican offices, all I could think of was “The Dicastery of the Doctrine of the Faith presented by Pepsi Max”
Great to hear Edgar's insights on Rome and Latin America on the podcast. I also agree with his take that we're still in the honeymoon phase of this papacy. Which isn't a bad thing but it's also early still to claim too much with certainty about Pope Leo XIV yet.
One of the best things about the recent conclave coverage has been getting to meet and "know" Edgar and the other Pillar staff. This was a very interesting episode. I'd love to have a spinoff podcast series with Edgar and Luke talking about international church matters.
Although I think I understand from the context, could you explain exactly what is meant when you say “ say the red and do the black”. Also the derivation of the phrase. Thanks!
I meant it backwards (say the black and do the red). It comes from the missal. The things in black is what the priest is supposed to say, the things in red are the ones the priest is supposed to do. So "say the black and do the red" conveys a specific attitude towards liturgy, meaning that the priest should not do or say more or less than what's prescribed.
Thank you Edgar, for your almost instant reply! I wondered if it might be tied to the missal but had never heard it before. Very evocative for those of us who remember those missals.