The second half of this pod is the most important thing y'all have done. I understand SO much better what is going on. Reading the article I was stuck on "But WHY?!" And my inability to comprehend the motives behind the tampering made me think I wasn't understanding the tampering.
"Oh but we KNOW cardinal/ monsignor/etc... Been doing business with him for years... surely there's a way we can still help him out, he trusts us, he's elderly, he won't be able to understand how real banks work"
Just to be clear, Newman was not "converted" to the Catholic Church, but rather professed the full faith and was received into the Church.
Ya'll ("all of you") like careful use of language, right? But there is a good reason for distinguishing between the conversion of the unbaptized and a baptized member of Christ's flock entering full communion: all the baptized are our brothers, or, in recently-modified English, "sisters and brothers". :-)
“Touché”, the accent is important. Frenchman here, I also like careful use of MY language! ;-)
Jokes aside, I’m so glad I have found you and subscribed a few months ago, you are doing such a great job. Even though you’re understandably US-centric I am glad to read and hear reporting on my own country (even though recently I wished there weren’t some stuff to report from Toulouse…).
Ed, thank you for doing the Lord’s work and taking a courageous stand against the abomination that is the word “impactful.” It’s a nails-on-chalkboard word for me.
Glad to hear you're on the mend, JD! Hope you continue to recover well.
So when is Ed going to start writing his book on the Vatican finance scandals of the last decade? He's the only one who can make sense of the whole thing to me.
Just to be pedantic, Newman was beatified at Cofton Park…. There was a vigil at Hyde Park… but agreed Ed, that Pope Benedict’s speech at Westminster Hall was powerful.
Loved both halves of this episode (as a former Anglican priest). Regarding the financial reporting… On this side of the parousia the Judas principle will be at work in the ‘now and not yet’ ‘I am dark yet lovely’ church. It makes perfect sense to me that the Vatican financial hub will be a primary locale for all manner of corruption and temptations (cf John 12:6). That being said, can we at least work to make it a bit more difficult for financial and moral malfeasance to occur? We should aim to conduct ourselves in accordance with 2 Cor 8:21 (“we aim at what is honorable not only in the Lord’s sight but also in the sight of man”). Publish the financials in the centre pages of every major newspaper in the world, or due to space constraints, make it available to anybody by download at Vatican.va. Atheist (etc) folk may revile it all as a spectacular waste of money and time, but the numbers should at least clearly add up and withstand public scrutiny.
I've always assumed the existence of sub-8 minute homilies is a complex social experiment where someone decided to start a rumor on the internet, and see how many people are willing to believe they exist *somewhere*
St. Anthony de Padua Church in South Bend, IN, anytime Father Arthur is there for three pointed sermons. And 8 minute or less sermons from my brother who has 3 parishes and is also the only priest in the diocese allowed to say TLM. He has to make sure he has time to get from one Mass to the next. He is an extremely busy man.
Could we perhaps get a technical commentary on how this type of SWIFT ledger editing would be possible? My Google skimming says only amendments to a ledger are possible but not true changes to transaction records. I assume then that any "edits" would only really exist on the Holy See's side of things, but perhaps a run down on SWIFT message protocol would be cool. If any reader has one that would also be great, thank you
Given that they closed a Swiss bank the Vatican worked with and fired all its executives when the bank was bought, it seems possible to me that the edits could have been done on both sides.
Every time JD sings a snippet of 90's/early 2000's evangelical music, it goes over Ed's head and into my heart. It's like a lobbing an Easter egg to all of those who have come into the fullness of faith.
I loved this discussion of Newman! Is has inspired me to suggest some of his writings for my bookclub to read this year. What would be a good first Newman book? Thanks!
The second half of this pod is the most important thing y'all have done. I understand SO much better what is going on. Reading the article I was stuck on "But WHY?!" And my inability to comprehend the motives behind the tampering made me think I wasn't understanding the tampering.
"Oh but we KNOW cardinal/ monsignor/etc... Been doing business with him for years... surely there's a way we can still help him out, he trusts us, he's elderly, he won't be able to understand how real banks work"
Just to be clear, Newman was not "converted" to the Catholic Church, but rather professed the full faith and was received into the Church.
Ya'll ("all of you") like careful use of language, right? But there is a good reason for distinguishing between the conversion of the unbaptized and a baptized member of Christ's flock entering full communion: all the baptized are our brothers, or, in recently-modified English, "sisters and brothers". :-)
touche
“Touché”, the accent is important. Frenchman here, I also like careful use of MY language! ;-)
Jokes aside, I’m so glad I have found you and subscribed a few months ago, you are doing such a great job. Even though you’re understandably US-centric I am glad to read and hear reporting on my own country (even though recently I wished there weren’t some stuff to report from Toulouse…).
Keep doing all that.
Ed, thank you for doing the Lord’s work and taking a courageous stand against the abomination that is the word “impactful.” It’s a nails-on-chalkboard word for me.
Glad to hear you're on the mend, JD! Hope you continue to recover well.
So when is Ed going to start writing his book on the Vatican finance scandals of the last decade? He's the only one who can make sense of the whole thing to me.
He has to wait until the whole mess has been publicly unraveled. It will happen but not tomorrow.
Just to be pedantic, Newman was beatified at Cofton Park…. There was a vigil at Hyde Park… but agreed Ed, that Pope Benedict’s speech at Westminster Hall was powerful.
I thought this was so.
Loved both halves of this episode (as a former Anglican priest). Regarding the financial reporting… On this side of the parousia the Judas principle will be at work in the ‘now and not yet’ ‘I am dark yet lovely’ church. It makes perfect sense to me that the Vatican financial hub will be a primary locale for all manner of corruption and temptations (cf John 12:6). That being said, can we at least work to make it a bit more difficult for financial and moral malfeasance to occur? We should aim to conduct ourselves in accordance with 2 Cor 8:21 (“we aim at what is honorable not only in the Lord’s sight but also in the sight of man”). Publish the financials in the centre pages of every major newspaper in the world, or due to space constraints, make it available to anybody by download at Vatican.va. Atheist (etc) folk may revile it all as a spectacular waste of money and time, but the numbers should at least clearly add up and withstand public scrutiny.
This is obviously the least important part of this podcast but where are we finding *three to seven minutes* type Sunday homilies.
Signed, a mother of many small children sitting through muchhhhhh longer homilies for the last 17 years 🙃😉😆
:-(
And this isnot a local phenomenon. It’s not happening in NC, GA, MD, LA. I’ve lived in many a diocese and it’s a common non standard time. 🫠🫠🫠
I've always assumed the existence of sub-8 minute homilies is a complex social experiment where someone decided to start a rumor on the internet, and see how many people are willing to believe they exist *somewhere*
Well it needs to end bc it’s just a wicked tease. And not Boston wicked. 🥺🥺🥺
I've heard them lots of times with 3 points to take with you.
I never heard one of those (explicitly - I guess some could have been boiled down/paraphrased in that way).
St. Anthony de Padua Church in South Bend, IN, anytime Father Arthur is there for three pointed sermons. And 8 minute or less sermons from my brother who has 3 parishes and is also the only priest in the diocese allowed to say TLM. He has to make sure he has time to get from one Mass to the next. He is an extremely busy man.
The only time I’ve ever experienced this was Palm Sunday
Once we didn’t HAVE a homily on Palm Sunday. 🤣 I think that might have been in LA? But I didn’t *have* children. So alas. Wasted lol
Could we perhaps get a technical commentary on how this type of SWIFT ledger editing would be possible? My Google skimming says only amendments to a ledger are possible but not true changes to transaction records. I assume then that any "edits" would only really exist on the Holy See's side of things, but perhaps a run down on SWIFT message protocol would be cool. If any reader has one that would also be great, thank you
Given that they closed a Swiss bank the Vatican worked with and fired all its executives when the bank was bought, it seems possible to me that the edits could have been done on both sides.
Every time JD sings a snippet of 90's/early 2000's evangelical music, it goes over Ed's head and into my heart. It's like a lobbing an Easter egg to all of those who have come into the fullness of faith.
lol. what did I sing?
“This is the air I breathe..”
nice.
based, even.
Diarrhea was the number one killer in the year 1900.
I had not realized that JD was so horribly sick. I hope he has made a full recovery by now.
I loved this discussion of Newman! Is has inspired me to suggest some of his writings for my bookclub to read this year. What would be a good first Newman book? Thanks!