The Vatican is expected to soon announce a date for the beatification of Archbishop Fulton Sheen. JD and Ed talk about why Sheen’s initial 2019 beatification date was delayed, and what they expect for his beatification.
Still early in my listening, so forgive me if this is mentioned later on. Ed’s free masonry podcast miniseries seems like a great subject for the Pillar In-Depth show!
Diocese of Gallup? Shout out to Fr. Nathanael Block, Pastor of Our Lady of the Snows in Snowflake, AZ and Judicial Vicar for the Diocese of Gallup (Gallup covers NE AZ).
He has a tough job there in remote, rural Arizona. It’s the heart of Mormon country… originally settled by Mormon pioneers (men named Snow and Flake… our former Senator Jeff Flake is a decedent and from Snowflake… and yes.. LDS) sent by Bringham Young. Snowflake, population 6,000, has its own huge Mormon temple that towers over the plains of Navajo County… town is 99% LDS. But Fr Block has a wonderful parish that I look forward to visiting a few times a year when I’m up there to escape the Phoenix heat.
He has built that parish up over the years and gives the most insightful homilies. And the Masses in the humble country church are beautiful. Wonderful OF and EF Masses are offered each Sunday… he’s even trained some of the alter boys to learn the TLM.
If you ever happen to stumble up Snowflake, AZ be sure to stop by (JD, the Fourth of July rodeo is as authentically cowboy as you’ll get). And if the seminarians turn out like Fr. Block, the future of the Diocese of Gallup will be bright!
A unique and stunning part of the country…and two details there that might be of particular interest to our hosts, when they have occasion to talk about the place again, are the jurisdictional curiosity of the diocese crossing state lines, and the presence of a temple conducting rituals that were strongly influenced by those of Freemasonry.
Yes! When I first stated going up to that part of Arizona, I was shocked to discover that it wasn't part of the Diocese of Phoenix (even though Sedona and Flagstaff, just a 50 miles as the crow flies to the west are in Phoenix).
It's very remote part of the country with a lot of challenges to the priests: weather can be harsh in the winter, tremendous distances between parishes (or even within the territory of a parish), multiple Indian Reservations from a number of different tribes, and... deeply engrained Mormonism in that part of the country that goes back to the days of Mormon Pioneers... outside of Utah, there may not be another part of the country where the LDS church dominates a region.
Add to all of that you have two different states! Half the year the diocese isn't even in the same time zone (AZ doesn't follow Day Light Savings time while NM does... and the Navajo Nation which does even though most of it is in Arizona...).
So they are dealing with two different state laws, legislatures, and probably a dozen Tribal Governments. I don't know about NM, but in AZ the Diocese of Gallup includes the Hopi, Navajo, White Mountain Apache, San Carlos Apache, Ute Mountain, and Zuni Reservations... each of them geographically bigger than a lot of states and each with their own federally-recognized, sovereign Tribal Governments!
What’s the deal there? The only things I know is 1. there are a lot of made-up things about Masons doing anti-Catholic things and 2. the only Mason of whom I know is a YouTuber who is mad about the situation and wishes that Masons weren’t banned.
Casting my vote: as to 1) the podcast mini-series on Freemasonry, and 2) more episodes with video rather than audio only: a hearty "yes, please!" to both!
I was particularly pained because I started college at Garfield’s alma mater (wound up finishing at a quite different place); and Arthur and I go even farther back, to elementary school.
One year, our teachers decided to put on a pageant of presidents and first ladies. Each child would portray one such person, dressing up in the most appropriate costume they could muster and telling the audience who they were and what they accomplished. Names were put in a hat to determine which child would be assigned to whom. My hopes high that I would get a towering figure of American history—one whose mighty deeds I likely already knew about and would cherish relating—I reached in and drew a slip of paper with the name…Chester Arthur.
After extensive consultation of the relevant article in the World Book Encyclopedia (of course we had a full set at home; we were an educated family), I was able to walk on stage in a vintage topcoat and declare (I paraphrase from hazy memory): “I’m Chester Arthur, the 21st president of the United States. I took over when Garfield was shot. During my term, tariffs were adjusted.”
(In truth, he was a considerably more interesting figure than that. And to this day, I have no idea how I failed to take note of the landmark Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act—like tariffs, a matter of surprising relevance in our particular moment. Probably the World Book let me down; I bet I’d have represented Chester better if we’d had the Brittanica instead.)
Classical educators everywhere listening : please say it louder for the people in the back.
Rhetoric is the climax of children’s education before the quad. As you said, and some of us are out here fighting the good fight to create a new generation of adults who think well AND communicate well.
I'm an audio only podcast listener. Always enjoy it as a weekend treat with a house chore. And yes, the Venezuela podcast was excellent. Keep up the Catholic conversation.
I dunno. I'm quite good at logic, and also, on regular occasions, quite good at behaving or speaking irrationally. Something tells me you won't be content until we're all acting and speaking reasonably and in accordance with reality. ;)
Not necessarily. I won't be happy until people live like they know if A then B doesn't mean if B then A. One would think educated people would know better but one would be mistaken, even among the very well educated.
Indeed. I gave up on educated people knowing better a while ago. I blame daycare and pre-school. That sort of logic gets taught well before the college or graduate level, if it gets taught at all, and the discipline of habitually thinking correctly is unlearned by certain kinds of education.
The Pillar podcast is truly something I look forward to every week. When there isn’t an episode it is a little bit of a bummer, but I try to counteract this feeling by reminding myself that rest is important and you all have other priorities above making a podcast. Buuuuut if y’all could pre record a few to drop for when the Pillar is taking a rest week, seems like a win-win and something I would be super appreciative. Keep up the good work
This Chester A. Arthur erasure will not stand.
If JD hadn’t figured out the right order, I was prepared to fight him.
Still early in my listening, so forgive me if this is mentioned later on. Ed’s free masonry podcast miniseries seems like a great subject for the Pillar In-Depth show!
I’m intrigued, because my only knowledge of the Catholic perspective on Masons is that they believed a bunch of lies about them.
Diocese of Gallup? Shout out to Fr. Nathanael Block, Pastor of Our Lady of the Snows in Snowflake, AZ and Judicial Vicar for the Diocese of Gallup (Gallup covers NE AZ).
He has a tough job there in remote, rural Arizona. It’s the heart of Mormon country… originally settled by Mormon pioneers (men named Snow and Flake… our former Senator Jeff Flake is a decedent and from Snowflake… and yes.. LDS) sent by Bringham Young. Snowflake, population 6,000, has its own huge Mormon temple that towers over the plains of Navajo County… town is 99% LDS. But Fr Block has a wonderful parish that I look forward to visiting a few times a year when I’m up there to escape the Phoenix heat.
He has built that parish up over the years and gives the most insightful homilies. And the Masses in the humble country church are beautiful. Wonderful OF and EF Masses are offered each Sunday… he’s even trained some of the alter boys to learn the TLM.
If you ever happen to stumble up Snowflake, AZ be sure to stop by (JD, the Fourth of July rodeo is as authentically cowboy as you’ll get). And if the seminarians turn out like Fr. Block, the future of the Diocese of Gallup will be bright!
A unique and stunning part of the country…and two details there that might be of particular interest to our hosts, when they have occasion to talk about the place again, are the jurisdictional curiosity of the diocese crossing state lines, and the presence of a temple conducting rituals that were strongly influenced by those of Freemasonry.
Yes! When I first stated going up to that part of Arizona, I was shocked to discover that it wasn't part of the Diocese of Phoenix (even though Sedona and Flagstaff, just a 50 miles as the crow flies to the west are in Phoenix).
It's very remote part of the country with a lot of challenges to the priests: weather can be harsh in the winter, tremendous distances between parishes (or even within the territory of a parish), multiple Indian Reservations from a number of different tribes, and... deeply engrained Mormonism in that part of the country that goes back to the days of Mormon Pioneers... outside of Utah, there may not be another part of the country where the LDS church dominates a region.
Add to all of that you have two different states! Half the year the diocese isn't even in the same time zone (AZ doesn't follow Day Light Savings time while NM does... and the Navajo Nation which does even though most of it is in Arizona...).
So they are dealing with two different state laws, legislatures, and probably a dozen Tribal Governments. I don't know about NM, but in AZ the Diocese of Gallup includes the Hopi, Navajo, White Mountain Apache, San Carlos Apache, Ute Mountain, and Zuni Reservations... each of them geographically bigger than a lot of states and each with their own federally-recognized, sovereign Tribal Governments!
I paused the podcast about 5 minutes to say that JD is wrong and I really really want Ed's Freemasonry podcast
We will always want more freemasonry content from Ed!!!
I think spin it out into a whole new podcast called ‘sed contra’ where Ed systematically takes down all the enemies of The Faith!
I agree with you on everything but the name. It should be called Ed Contra
Oh my goodness that's perfect
Please do this
Funnily enough, I had someone ask me a question about Freemasonry/Shriners just a couple days ago.
What’s the deal there? The only things I know is 1. there are a lot of made-up things about Masons doing anti-Catholic things and 2. the only Mason of whom I know is a YouTuber who is mad about the situation and wishes that Masons weren’t banned.
Casting my vote: as to 1) the podcast mini-series on Freemasonry, and 2) more episodes with video rather than audio only: a hearty "yes, please!" to both!
I love you guys but as an American historian I died a little with the Hayes-Garfield-Arthur debacle.
And yes I want a Pillar bonus on Freemasonry!
I would have recommended Death by Lightning, but it seemed as if JD had already watched it. I guess the character names did not stick.
The Jackson cheese, by the way, was simply a repeat of an earlier cheese given to Thomas Jefferson.
I was particularly pained because I started college at Garfield’s alma mater (wound up finishing at a quite different place); and Arthur and I go even farther back, to elementary school.
One year, our teachers decided to put on a pageant of presidents and first ladies. Each child would portray one such person, dressing up in the most appropriate costume they could muster and telling the audience who they were and what they accomplished. Names were put in a hat to determine which child would be assigned to whom. My hopes high that I would get a towering figure of American history—one whose mighty deeds I likely already knew about and would cherish relating—I reached in and drew a slip of paper with the name…Chester Arthur.
After extensive consultation of the relevant article in the World Book Encyclopedia (of course we had a full set at home; we were an educated family), I was able to walk on stage in a vintage topcoat and declare (I paraphrase from hazy memory): “I’m Chester Arthur, the 21st president of the United States. I took over when Garfield was shot. During my term, tariffs were adjusted.”
(In truth, he was a considerably more interesting figure than that. And to this day, I have no idea how I failed to take note of the landmark Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act—like tariffs, a matter of surprising relevance in our particular moment. Probably the World Book let me down; I bet I’d have represented Chester better if we’d had the Brittanica instead.)
Classical educators everywhere listening : please say it louder for the people in the back.
Rhetoric is the climax of children’s education before the quad. As you said, and some of us are out here fighting the good fight to create a new generation of adults who think well AND communicate well.
I'm an audio only podcast listener. Always enjoy it as a weekend treat with a house chore. And yes, the Venezuela podcast was excellent. Keep up the Catholic conversation.
Good gravy Ed., I sure hope George Washington wasn't a mule fancier!
The Rhode Island report on clergy abuse has been completed and is being released this month.
I just came here to say that I would probably still just listen to the audio, even if you switched to offering video.
"I couldn't make it through the week without this." Yes, that's how we all feel about the Pillar Podcast!
If people could just be taught logic I would be content.
I dunno. I'm quite good at logic, and also, on regular occasions, quite good at behaving or speaking irrationally. Something tells me you won't be content until we're all acting and speaking reasonably and in accordance with reality. ;)
Not necessarily. I won't be happy until people live like they know if A then B doesn't mean if B then A. One would think educated people would know better but one would be mistaken, even among the very well educated.
Indeed. I gave up on educated people knowing better a while ago. I blame daycare and pre-school. That sort of logic gets taught well before the college or graduate level, if it gets taught at all, and the discipline of habitually thinking correctly is unlearned by certain kinds of education.
Archbishop Noll of Fort Wayne-South Bend founded Our Sunday Visitor, among other things.
John Paul the Great came to Chicago in 1979, the year after his election as pope.
He was elected in October of 1978. His first big trip of his Pontificate was to the Americas, beginning with Mexico in January. :)
The Pillar podcast is truly something I look forward to every week. When there isn’t an episode it is a little bit of a bummer, but I try to counteract this feeling by reminding myself that rest is important and you all have other priorities above making a podcast. Buuuuut if y’all could pre record a few to drop for when the Pillar is taking a rest week, seems like a win-win and something I would be super appreciative. Keep up the good work