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Aidan T's avatar

I’ve only read the references, but what a joy to read a pope who doesn’t quote himself. His predecessors, Augustine, Hannah Arendt and Tolkien. This is going to be good.

Kraft's avatar

I don't see a conflict between 98 and 99. Both are, quite simply, descriptive. If you speak with engineers working with the data analytics, transformer generation, etc, 98 is simply accurate. 99, likewise, is too. Data processing is what makes AI work but how that data is processed—p. 98—is cultivated.

I feel like this surprise of 98 vs 99 tells me that Pope Leo and the Vatican truly sought to understand AI and worked with the industry to do so. Folks outside of tech may be surprised, thinking AI is programmed like other software to realize it isn't.

Hank's avatar

Can’t wait till I get a hard copy in hand to dive in. I’m thinking I might use it as a concluding text in my course on the theology of St. Augustine. It seems like Magnifica Humanitas is Augustinianism in action.

CMCF's avatar

I really love that point from Tim Hwang about Babel/Nehemiah being the frame of reference. There's an underlying confidence in the Gospel that Pope Leo nearly always displays which comes through in the document really strongly. I wonder if that due to its germination during the Jubilee of Hope.

Ryan's avatar

192 is going to have a lot of talk around it. I understand what he means with " the “just war” theory, which has all too often been used to justify any kind of war, is now outdated" by looking at the footnote, but I don't understand this rhetoric of people have abused the just War definition and now it's outdated. Very clearly if they were abusing it, it wasn't the actual just war definition. If abusing an idea made it outdated then the gospel would have been irrelevant long ago.

In my view there seems to be a tension with these ideas of peace and how they are actually implemented. There are bad actors in the world, not everything can be resolved with endless "dialogue." Being able to defend yourself implies a military and that warfare is sometimes justified, which implies Just war theory. Having a military implies somebody creates the weapons they use, meaning a weapons industry, which this encyclical also condemns. The Holy See has these same weapons, by the way.